With Drew Dudley

We’re talking about how fear fuels anger, how empathy can defuse both, and how planting seeds of gratitude on good days can carry us through the bad ones. It’s a funny, deep, and refreshingly real chat about growth, healing, and being human.

In this episode, leadership expert and bestselling author Drew Dudley joins me for a wildly honest conversation about what it really means to be happy. We dig into self-forgiveness, ADHD, bipolar disorder, and the messy business of learning to give ourselves grace. Drew shares how slowing down his mind helped him see people—and himself—more clearly, and why happiness isn’t the goal, but strength is.